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		<title>By: flip flopping joy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michigan and Acupuncture</title>
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		<dc:creator>flip flopping joy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michigan and Acupuncture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] away my ability to go to acupuncture&#8211;it would take away my daughter&#8217;s right to sit and take up space while she gets her health taken care of&#8211;it would make it impossible for all the thousands of people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] away my ability to go to acupuncture&#8211;it would take away my daughter&#8217;s right to sit and take up space while she gets her health taken care of&#8211;it would make it impossible for all the thousands of people [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Policing Ourselves and Each Other - The Pursuit of Harpyness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Policing Ourselves and Each Other - The Pursuit of Harpyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] whole &#8220;credit to your race&#8221; conversation reminded me of BFP&#8217;s post at flip flopping joy, in which she writes about the politics of taking up space. BFP describes the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] whole &#8220;credit to your race&#8221; conversation reminded me of BFP&#8217;s post at flip flopping joy, in which she writes about the politics of taking up space. BFP describes the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: (Re)thinking Running &#171; Tanglad</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Re)thinking Running &#171; Tanglad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I do the long run in the middle of the week, to avoid people. Sometimes, there are other trail users. Horses always get the right of way, mountainbikers have to yield to me. But I automatically get out of the way for everyone. Even here, I worry about taking up space. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I do the long run in the middle of the week, to avoid people. Sometimes, there are other trail users. Horses always get the right of way, mountainbikers have to yield to me. But I automatically get out of the way for everyone. Even here, I worry about taking up space. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post! I came over from Womanist-Musings. 

It rings true on so many different levels. Your nod to Gramscii and comment on theory in university being applicable to your daily life made me feel relief! I&#039;m a university student and have had quite a few arguments/down right fights with my mom about the ivory tower syndrome that I seem to suffer from. Somehow my experiences are less &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; than her&#039;s because all I do is textbook stuff. Needless to say, it hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post! I came over from Womanist-Musings. </p>
<p>It rings true on so many different levels. Your nod to Gramscii and comment on theory in university being applicable to your daily life made me feel relief! I&#8217;m a university student and have had quite a few arguments/down right fights with my mom about the ivory tower syndrome that I seem to suffer from. Somehow my experiences are less <i>real</i> than her&#8217;s because all I do is textbook stuff. Needless to say, it hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, lovely story - for both your daughter&#039;s ability to own her space, and your catching yourself in time to not squash her.  The ability to not say things is a skill very underrated in parenting I think.  

There&#039;s a book I&#039;m thinking of now - &quot;Raising our children, raising ourselves&quot; by Naomi Aldort.  If you ever get to read that I think you&#039;d like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, lovely story &#8211; for both your daughter&#8217;s ability to own her space, and your catching yourself in time to not squash her.  The ability to not say things is a skill very underrated in parenting I think.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a book I&#8217;m thinking of now &#8211; &#8220;Raising our children, raising ourselves&#8221; by Naomi Aldort.  If you ever get to read that I think you&#8217;d like it.</p>
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		<title>By: octogalore</title>
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		<dc:creator>octogalore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to you and your &quot;cocky little girl&quot; -- may she continue to be unquestioning of her right to take up space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to you and your &#8220;cocky little girl&#8221; &#8212; may she continue to be unquestioning of her right to take up space.</p>
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		<title>By: La Lubu</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Lubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“EVERYONE MUST PROVE THEMSELVES WORTHY”&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, that! I have spent my whole life doing exactly that, and a quick look back tells me I needn&#039;t have wasted my time---should&#039;a said &quot;fuck &#039;em&quot; a long time ago. Of course, I didn&#039;t have the luxury to do that, and still don&#039;t...but I can excise that internal censor out like the cancer it is.

I like that &quot;Alien&quot; analogy; how it eats you alive from within in the process of being born. And I don&#039;t want to give birth to that monster anymore. I can&#039;t help but think how it&#039;s related to the rise of cancer, how that poison of &quot;you don&#039;t deserve to be here, to &lt;i&gt;be&lt;/i&gt; metastasizes quietly within, killing you bit by bit every day....

I love what Baby BFP does...bring all her stuff with her, so she has what she needs when she needs it. A lot of us do that; it&#039;s just that as we grow into adulthood we learn to take up less space as we do it---even (as you pointed out) in our own chairs. For what, y&#039;know? It&#039;s not like anyone else&#039;s ass is gong to fit there with me! That&#039;s one of the things I really love about being around children---they still have &lt;i&gt;unadulterated&lt;/i&gt; selves.

And now I&#039;m going to spend an extended weekend with my mother, my stoic mother, who is now openly admitting that she feels pain. I got some mango syrup at the italian store, so I&#039;m gonna make her mango margaritas. Mango margaritas, and the garlicky guacamole that my dad hates because it gives us bad breath. And we&#039;re gonna take up space on the couch, and watch the movies we want to watch, and breathe stinky garlicky guacamole breath all over the living room. 

btw, what&#039;s with the ears? I haven&#039;t been poked in the ears yet! what does that do?

Thanks for this....much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“EVERYONE MUST PROVE THEMSELVES WORTHY”</i></p>
<p>Yes, that! I have spent my whole life doing exactly that, and a quick look back tells me I needn&#8217;t have wasted my time&#8212;should&#8217;a said &#8220;fuck &#8216;em&#8221; a long time ago. Of course, I didn&#8217;t have the luxury to do that, and still don&#8217;t&#8230;but I can excise that internal censor out like the cancer it is.</p>
<p>I like that &#8220;Alien&#8221; analogy; how it eats you alive from within in the process of being born. And I don&#8217;t want to give birth to that monster anymore. I can&#8217;t help but think how it&#8217;s related to the rise of cancer, how that poison of &#8220;you don&#8217;t deserve to be here, to <i>be</i> metastasizes quietly within, killing you bit by bit every day&#8230;.</p>
<p>I love what Baby BFP does&#8230;bring all her stuff with her, so she has what she needs when she needs it. A lot of us do that; it&#8217;s just that as we grow into adulthood we learn to take up less space as we do it&#8212;even (as you pointed out) in our own chairs. For what, y&#8217;know? It&#8217;s not like anyone else&#8217;s ass is gong to fit there with me! That&#8217;s one of the things I really love about being around children&#8212;they still have <i>unadulterated</i> selves.</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m going to spend an extended weekend with my mother, my stoic mother, who is now openly admitting that she feels pain. I got some mango syrup at the italian store, so I&#8217;m gonna make her mango margaritas. Mango margaritas, and the garlicky guacamole that my dad hates because it gives us bad breath. And we&#8217;re gonna take up space on the couch, and watch the movies we want to watch, and breathe stinky garlicky guacamole breath all over the living room. </p>
<p>btw, what&#8217;s with the ears? I haven&#8217;t been poked in the ears yet! what does that do?</p>
<p>Thanks for this&#8230;.much.</p>
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		<title>By: Whit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not old (srsly though, not old. check back in when you start yelling at the kids to get off your lawn), and you are animated and beautiful in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not old (srsly though, not old. check back in when you start yelling at the kids to get off your lawn), and you are animated and beautiful in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes.

so much of the way we as a society deal with kids is about trying to squeeze them into boxes instead of giving them room to grow. elementary school for example is so much about making kids prove themselves day in day out, making kids earn their gold stars or their stickers or their fucking RECESS when it should be about helping them grow and learn.

so much of the way we deal with each other in this society is about proving your worth to basic human decency - the way for example people talk about weight and talk about &quot;well x is no EXCUSE to be fat&quot; like, what matters is not that you are healthy or happy or doing what works for you but what matters is that you are constantly compressing yourself, that you are striving to erase yourself.

and it&#039;s just so incredibly sad to me that these are our priorities. that it&#039;s about &quot;EVERYONE MUST PROVE THEMSELVES WORTHY&quot; instead of &quot;how can we help each other out?&quot; when life is so short and other people are such a huge percentage of what matters. how sad that we are asked to spend so much time policing ourselves and each other when we have so little time together.

oh thank you as always for this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes.</p>
<p>so much of the way we as a society deal with kids is about trying to squeeze them into boxes instead of giving them room to grow. elementary school for example is so much about making kids prove themselves day in day out, making kids earn their gold stars or their stickers or their fucking RECESS when it should be about helping them grow and learn.</p>
<p>so much of the way we deal with each other in this society is about proving your worth to basic human decency &#8211; the way for example people talk about weight and talk about &#8220;well x is no EXCUSE to be fat&#8221; like, what matters is not that you are healthy or happy or doing what works for you but what matters is that you are constantly compressing yourself, that you are striving to erase yourself.</p>
<p>and it&#8217;s just so incredibly sad to me that these are our priorities. that it&#8217;s about &#8220;EVERYONE MUST PROVE THEMSELVES WORTHY&#8221; instead of &#8220;how can we help each other out?&#8221; when life is so short and other people are such a huge percentage of what matters. how sad that we are asked to spend so much time policing ourselves and each other when we have so little time together.</p>
<p>oh thank you as always for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: sarady</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for this post. it was a good read. 
This is something that I think about a lot.  I am fat.  I take up a lot of space and I worry constantly about it.  I worry about how wide I am and when I am moving around what happens if I brush into someone and what they think.  When in reality I am no more likely to brush up against anyone else in a crowded area than anyone else.  Its constantly on my mind and I constantly feel like I need to apologize for my size and the space I take up.  I also really was struck by the &quot;cleaning when you are tired&quot;. There are so many *shoulds*.  I live alone and don&#039;t have kids.  My place is cluttered though and I feel like I can&#039;t be a successful adult or functioning human if I don&#039;t clean and keep things perfect. I always feel like I shouldn&#039;t have all this stuff that takes up too much space. (but, who&#039;s space? its mine, i&#039;m alone?) Its all about appearances and what we feel we should be doing. We are so wrapped up in the shoulds we forget to do the things we want, which are sometimes the shoulds too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for this post. it was a good read.<br />
This is something that I think about a lot.  I am fat.  I take up a lot of space and I worry constantly about it.  I worry about how wide I am and when I am moving around what happens if I brush into someone and what they think.  When in reality I am no more likely to brush up against anyone else in a crowded area than anyone else.  Its constantly on my mind and I constantly feel like I need to apologize for my size and the space I take up.  I also really was struck by the &#8220;cleaning when you are tired&#8221;. There are so many *shoulds*.  I live alone and don&#8217;t have kids.  My place is cluttered though and I feel like I can&#8217;t be a successful adult or functioning human if I don&#8217;t clean and keep things perfect. I always feel like I shouldn&#8217;t have all this stuff that takes up too much space. (but, who&#8217;s space? its mine, i&#8217;m alone?) Its all about appearances and what we feel we should be doing. We are so wrapped up in the shoulds we forget to do the things we want, which are sometimes the shoulds too.</p>
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