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		<title>By: Día En La Playa &#171; Kloncke</title>
		<link>http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2009/02/24/rethinking-walking-fears-fucking-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-5083</link>
		<dc:creator>Día En La Playa &#171; Kloncke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We had a very simple day, enjoying the sun and sand and water on our skin.  (Bathing suits: unnecessary.  Ya feel me?) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
		<link>http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2009/02/24/rethinking-walking-fears-fucking-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece of work. Well written with beautiful pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece of work. Well written with beautiful pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Iwawoman</title>
		<link>http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2009/02/24/rethinking-walking-fears-fucking-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Iwawoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a question that I find hard to articulate but I think I finally got it answered today.  I&#039;ve been &#039;calling out&#039; for the answer: &quot;somebody please help me to understand before I loose my faith in man &amp; my sense of liberation about female sexuality&quot;, today I spoke to one socioligist and his active feminist girlfriend and I think it created some sense of relief.

Some of the comments on here have been about the rights or wrongs of pornography and how people feel about it.  I think there is a natural joy in experiencing something beautiful and sensual and sexual and many images reflect that beauty &amp; create that joy, where the discomfort lies I think at times is when images reflect oppression &amp; a vulgarity that comes from the need to controll.  The media feeds us with many conflicting thoughts on these things &amp; this creates a conflict between something we know should probably be fine but is sometimes represented in a way that makes us uncomfortable because of the more negative associations.

I don&#039;t want to get too philosophical here but I think that may be why the whole double oppression thing exists in us women of colour.  I&#039;m not sure that as a women of colour I would really think of it that way but there may a subconscious awareness of it.

Apart from that, I just wanted to say mainly that it was a well written and thought out article and that the images and layout captured managed to capture a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a question that I find hard to articulate but I think I finally got it answered today.  I&#8217;ve been &#8216;calling out&#8217; for the answer: &#8220;somebody please help me to understand before I loose my faith in man &amp; my sense of liberation about female sexuality&#8221;, today I spoke to one socioligist and his active feminist girlfriend and I think it created some sense of relief.</p>
<p>Some of the comments on here have been about the rights or wrongs of pornography and how people feel about it.  I think there is a natural joy in experiencing something beautiful and sensual and sexual and many images reflect that beauty &amp; create that joy, where the discomfort lies I think at times is when images reflect oppression &amp; a vulgarity that comes from the need to controll.  The media feeds us with many conflicting thoughts on these things &amp; this creates a conflict between something we know should probably be fine but is sometimes represented in a way that makes us uncomfortable because of the more negative associations.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to get too philosophical here but I think that may be why the whole double oppression thing exists in us women of colour.  I&#8217;m not sure that as a women of colour I would really think of it that way but there may a subconscious awareness of it.</p>
<p>Apart from that, I just wanted to say mainly that it was a well written and thought out article and that the images and layout captured managed to capture a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: bfp</title>
		<link>http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2009/02/24/rethinking-walking-fears-fucking-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>bfp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm. not really sure what your asking iwawoman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm. not really sure what your asking iwawoman.</p>
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		<title>By: Iwawoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iwawoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully articulated.

I also understand Sequoia&#039;s initial posting &amp; agree.  

There are many things I don&#039;t understand, nature is so simple &amp; so pure, women seem quite frequently to be in harmony with this.  Men have done so much to damage both the power &amp; nature of women &amp; to oppress one another, most of the things that mentioned in the comments reflect this, I don&#039;t know why women are suffering in this way &amp; why we have to discuss our sexuality in this way when all that is natural and good is evident.

What is this about? Is there a &#039;love&#039; post on this subject that can create the kind of lofty awareness that the above article did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully articulated.</p>
<p>I also understand Sequoia&#8217;s initial posting &amp; agree.  </p>
<p>There are many things I don&#8217;t understand, nature is so simple &amp; so pure, women seem quite frequently to be in harmony with this.  Men have done so much to damage both the power &amp; nature of women &amp; to oppress one another, most of the things that mentioned in the comments reflect this, I don&#8217;t know why women are suffering in this way &amp; why we have to discuss our sexuality in this way when all that is natural and good is evident.</p>
<p>What is this about? Is there a &#8216;love&#8217; post on this subject that can create the kind of lofty awareness that the above article did?</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sequoia, i read your post and I think it is telling that these photos come from Australia, and BFP spoke about location. You seem to be missing the points. 

Also, your comments are BACKLASH.
don&#039;t make this about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sequoia, i read your post and I think it is telling that these photos come from Australia, and BFP spoke about location. You seem to be missing the points. </p>
<p>Also, your comments are BACKLASH.<br />
don&#8217;t make this about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, this post. I am stuck in my chair. I am a white woman and I&#039;ve never realized these things you write about. I&#039;ve never acknowledged this loss. It never made it through the bubble I was born with and remains with me, no matter how blurry i feel the lines of my &quot;whiteness&quot; are, no matter what my class.

God damn. This piece makes my heart hurt with the realization of so many things you wrote. 

I will speak out about this now.
Sometimes I feel that if our sisters can&#039;t enjoy something that we can, that we shouldn&#039;t engage in it ourselves because it creates the illusion that this &quot;anonymous&quot; woman is all women. Thank you for this piece. great writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, this post. I am stuck in my chair. I am a white woman and I&#8217;ve never realized these things you write about. I&#8217;ve never acknowledged this loss. It never made it through the bubble I was born with and remains with me, no matter how blurry i feel the lines of my &#8220;whiteness&#8221; are, no matter what my class.</p>
<p>God damn. This piece makes my heart hurt with the realization of so many things you wrote. </p>
<p>I will speak out about this now.<br />
Sometimes I feel that if our sisters can&#8217;t enjoy something that we can, that we shouldn&#8217;t engage in it ourselves because it creates the illusion that this &#8220;anonymous&#8221; woman is all women. Thank you for this piece. great writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful, well written post.</description>
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		<title>By: davka</title>
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		<dc:creator>davka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, the freedom to lay out in the sun and be baked by it and be free-  the native women who don&#039;t want to be ogled by white men-  this is exactly the point- they have been robbed of the right to be naked in the sun by a history of hypersexualization, assault, rape, stigmatization, etc at the hands of white supremacist patriarchal society.  they don&#039;t have the levity of choice that we white women do in choosing porn or erotica or casual nakedness in the sun- the choice, if it comes at all, come after a lot of mindfucked thinking and doublethinking required to deconstruct all the shit before the choice can be made.

like my orgasms.  a man can just have one so easily, but i must first battle a bloodsucking pantheon of demons produced by a patriarchal culture that has tried to destroy my natural ecstasy.. a girl can&#039;t just fuck and feel good-  she has to first be torn from her body by all the images she was assaulted with early on and she wonders, &quot;do i look like them?&quot;  &quot;does this make me dirty?&quot;

the need to battle like this before a choice is the absence of privilege.  the conversation is not about pro porn or anti porn.

bfp you are brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, the freedom to lay out in the sun and be baked by it and be free-  the native women who don&#8217;t want to be ogled by white men-  this is exactly the point- they have been robbed of the right to be naked in the sun by a history of hypersexualization, assault, rape, stigmatization, etc at the hands of white supremacist patriarchal society.  they don&#8217;t have the levity of choice that we white women do in choosing porn or erotica or casual nakedness in the sun- the choice, if it comes at all, come after a lot of mindfucked thinking and doublethinking required to deconstruct all the shit before the choice can be made.</p>
<p>like my orgasms.  a man can just have one so easily, but i must first battle a bloodsucking pantheon of demons produced by a patriarchal culture that has tried to destroy my natural ecstasy.. a girl can&#8217;t just fuck and feel good-  she has to first be torn from her body by all the images she was assaulted with early on and she wonders, &#8220;do i look like them?&#8221;  &#8220;does this make me dirty?&#8221;</p>
<p>the need to battle like this before a choice is the absence of privilege.  the conversation is not about pro porn or anti porn.</p>
<p>bfp you are brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: bfp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bianca--as another fat woman of color, I am *totally* envious of you (and nadia)--My body is literally *aching* right now to get these clothes off and sit out in the sun--to feel warm everywhere--to kill the winter moss and cleans the pores...I want that. and I am SO glad that you (and nadia) got that!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bianca&#8211;as another fat woman of color, I am *totally* envious of you (and nadia)&#8211;My body is literally *aching* right now to get these clothes off and sit out in the sun&#8211;to feel warm everywhere&#8211;to kill the winter moss and cleans the pores&#8230;I want that. and I am SO glad that you (and nadia) got that!!!!</p>
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