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		<title>By: The Widening Gyre &#187; Perfectionism, Depression and Boddhichitta</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Widening Gyre &#187; Perfectionism, Depression and Boddhichitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just read this post by Jess at Flip Flopping Joy, a long meandering reflection on, among other things, privilege and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a visual learner. I create pictures in my mind as I take in and store information. My learning is also emotional and sometimes lacking the right descriptive words, which I find immensely frustrating since I am a writer. I read this piece and picture you walking on the path depicted in the photograph. I know your face only from pictures, but I imagine what it might look like when you smile or frown or are in deep concentration. I see semi-translucent bubbles appearing on the edges of the path as you walk. They float at eye-level. You stretch out your hand and the bubble pops, emitting a puff of smoke or mist or whatever fog is made of. The pop of a bubble is a moment of clarity that, like most moments of clarity, contributes to the haze that we attempt to navigate, thicker at some times than others. I think too much about who I have been, what wrong I have done, what my responsibility is and isn’t for my actions. Your writing prompted that. I wonder why I need people to like me so much, what void that desire is coming from. I wonder why I am making your writing about me. I smile at your description of “the lean” and then stop smiling as I recount the many times I’ve played that game. I wonder if I still play it, just with different motions. Accountability again. Trying to find mine so that I don’t re-become the person I used to be... the one who caused so many problems for who I am now. I feel sad a lot of the time that trust is so hard to build. That honesty is not the default setting. That we fear the truth, from ourselves and others. I wish that I could start my own walking, but the environment that I live in is so polluted that the outdoors are a hazard. I re-read what you write of not wanting to take up space with your privilege and think that the internet itself is a space of privilege, that all words in that space are privileged. I think of Gayatri Spivak’s work on the subaltern. I wonder what it looks like to not have any privilege at all. I try to create that picture, so I look out my window at the pollution-stained buildings and immediately recall the dirt-stained faces of the street kids I walked by yesterday on my way to class, the two women who occupy the sidewalk in front of my school that hold up their bowls and call to me as I enter the building every Tuesday and Thursday: “Ma. Ma.” I have no words for what this piece has stirred in me, something that I will wrestle with and put back in its cage so that I can make it through the rest of the day. I wonder how this comment will come across to you and to those who read it. I consider not posting it, consider whether the exercise of writing is all that I need from it. But I think I need to let you know that I made a connection, and I wonder if that connection is mutual. Needing to be liked again, no doubt. Can&#039;t take it back if I click submit. I wonder how these thoughts shape my brain… what new wrinkles have formed there. I am a visual learner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a visual learner. I create pictures in my mind as I take in and store information. My learning is also emotional and sometimes lacking the right descriptive words, which I find immensely frustrating since I am a writer. I read this piece and picture you walking on the path depicted in the photograph. I know your face only from pictures, but I imagine what it might look like when you smile or frown or are in deep concentration. I see semi-translucent bubbles appearing on the edges of the path as you walk. They float at eye-level. You stretch out your hand and the bubble pops, emitting a puff of smoke or mist or whatever fog is made of. The pop of a bubble is a moment of clarity that, like most moments of clarity, contributes to the haze that we attempt to navigate, thicker at some times than others. I think too much about who I have been, what wrong I have done, what my responsibility is and isn’t for my actions. Your writing prompted that. I wonder why I need people to like me so much, what void that desire is coming from. I wonder why I am making your writing about me. I smile at your description of “the lean” and then stop smiling as I recount the many times I’ve played that game. I wonder if I still play it, just with different motions. Accountability again. Trying to find mine so that I don’t re-become the person I used to be&#8230; the one who caused so many problems for who I am now. I feel sad a lot of the time that trust is so hard to build. That honesty is not the default setting. That we fear the truth, from ourselves and others. I wish that I could start my own walking, but the environment that I live in is so polluted that the outdoors are a hazard. I re-read what you write of not wanting to take up space with your privilege and think that the internet itself is a space of privilege, that all words in that space are privileged. I think of Gayatri Spivak’s work on the subaltern. I wonder what it looks like to not have any privilege at all. I try to create that picture, so I look out my window at the pollution-stained buildings and immediately recall the dirt-stained faces of the street kids I walked by yesterday on my way to class, the two women who occupy the sidewalk in front of my school that hold up their bowls and call to me as I enter the building every Tuesday and Thursday: “Ma. Ma.” I have no words for what this piece has stirred in me, something that I will wrestle with and put back in its cage so that I can make it through the rest of the day. I wonder how this comment will come across to you and to those who read it. I consider not posting it, consider whether the exercise of writing is all that I need from it. But I think I need to let you know that I made a connection, and I wonder if that connection is mutual. Needing to be liked again, no doubt. Can&#8217;t take it back if I click submit. I wonder how these thoughts shape my brain… what new wrinkles have formed there. I am a visual learner.</p>
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		<title>By: Saha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am continually sabotaging myself with my perfectionism. I have never even been able to make a decision about what I want to do with my life (I&#039;m now 33), in case I make the wrong choice. Consequently I have not pursued any of my interests to a point where I can make a career out of them. I&#039;m now at home struggling with not being a perfect mother!

I was the poor kid in an elite school, it was required that everyone grow up to be brilliant, and I have spent my adult life kicking myself for what I haven&#039;t done, and also wondering why so many seemingly not so smart people manage to achieve so much.

I have ignored my body to the point of total neglect, but have been inspired recently to take up yoga, because it still partly cerebral!

I am white but I wear a headscarf, so I am often perceived as a migrant, so I feel suspended between worlds.

Anyway, great post, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am continually sabotaging myself with my perfectionism. I have never even been able to make a decision about what I want to do with my life (I&#8217;m now 33), in case I make the wrong choice. Consequently I have not pursued any of my interests to a point where I can make a career out of them. I&#8217;m now at home struggling with not being a perfect mother!</p>
<p>I was the poor kid in an elite school, it was required that everyone grow up to be brilliant, and I have spent my adult life kicking myself for what I haven&#8217;t done, and also wondering why so many seemingly not so smart people manage to achieve so much.</p>
<p>I have ignored my body to the point of total neglect, but have been inspired recently to take up yoga, because it still partly cerebral!</p>
<p>I am white but I wear a headscarf, so I am often perceived as a migrant, so I feel suspended between worlds.</p>
<p>Anyway, great post, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leilani - reading your post, I immediately wanted to say: I didn&#039;t grow up with money, but I was educated in classrooms where most of the other kids were from wealthy families, so I always perceived myself as the poor kid trying to prove myself among the rich kids I was in school with, and what you wrote really resonates with me. 

To everyone - so many of us have different cultural explanations for and versions of what seems to be a too-common experience of feeling isolated and competitive and like our worth is only our work-related achievements. (Not to be too flip, but: my friend Hilary and I have a little pretend sitcom in which we turn to each other at conversational moments like this, shrug, smile, and say, &quot;Thaaaat&#039;s capitalism.&quot; Then the creepy laugh track comes in.) 

But really, is it a white-supremacy-culture thing? an assimilation-to-white-supremacy-culture thing? a midwestern thing? a poor-kids thing? an immigrants&#039;-kids thing, as in Lisa&#039;s example? seems clear it&#039;s something that&#039;s happening in different ways in lots of different spaces and cultures, across identities, at least within the U.S. society I think most of us (?) are writing from.

I really appreciate how open and honest you all are being in your responses, reminding us how social messages are internalized differently and yet pervasively, pervasively and yet differently. 

I know for me that relearning, learning to see myself not as an atomized individual but as part of communities, and to envision society/the world as a community-based, interconnected space and try to live in ways that enact and connect to that vision on the local scale -- collaborating rather than competing, connecting rather than behaving in ways that increase isolation ... that is an ongoing and sometimes challenging process within a very individualized, competitive, and hierarchical culture -- but one that I think is necessary and inspiring and totally worth all the perceived risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leilani &#8211; reading your post, I immediately wanted to say: I didn&#8217;t grow up with money, but I was educated in classrooms where most of the other kids were from wealthy families, so I always perceived myself as the poor kid trying to prove myself among the rich kids I was in school with, and what you wrote really resonates with me. </p>
<p>To everyone &#8211; so many of us have different cultural explanations for and versions of what seems to be a too-common experience of feeling isolated and competitive and like our worth is only our work-related achievements. (Not to be too flip, but: my friend Hilary and I have a little pretend sitcom in which we turn to each other at conversational moments like this, shrug, smile, and say, &#8220;Thaaaat&#8217;s capitalism.&#8221; Then the creepy laugh track comes in.) </p>
<p>But really, is it a white-supremacy-culture thing? an assimilation-to-white-supremacy-culture thing? a midwestern thing? a poor-kids thing? an immigrants&#8217;-kids thing, as in Lisa&#8217;s example? seems clear it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s happening in different ways in lots of different spaces and cultures, across identities, at least within the U.S. society I think most of us (?) are writing from.</p>
<p>I really appreciate how open and honest you all are being in your responses, reminding us how social messages are internalized differently and yet pervasively, pervasively and yet differently. </p>
<p>I know for me that relearning, learning to see myself not as an atomized individual but as part of communities, and to envision society/the world as a community-based, interconnected space and try to live in ways that enact and connect to that vision on the local scale &#8212; collaborating rather than competing, connecting rather than behaving in ways that increase isolation &#8230; that is an ongoing and sometimes challenging process within a very individualized, competitive, and hierarchical culture &#8212; but one that I think is necessary and inspiring and totally worth all the perceived risks.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2009/02/02/rethinking-walking-jesss-walk-one/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is midnight, nearing 1am my time, as I read this. I am too tired to respond coherently, yet I must, with more to come. This says so many things that so reflect where I have been and how I measured myself. To be honest, they are probably still mostly relevant in ways I struggle to acknowledge. Right now, I live in my head because being in my body is too sensitive a task. It ebbs and flows, of course, as I know it is happening and can try to come back into myself. I go to my acupuncturist (who took the place of my talk therapist when my words dried up), and sometimes, she can barely touch me because the sensitivity is unbearable. It is only after we talk first that I realize my words are still there and we are building trust, enough trust that I will let her touch my fragile body.

I used to think the list of achievements was a Midwestern thing - that was all I knew to blame at the time. When you grow up in middle America, there is this expectation that you can/will account for your time. This includes leisure time - what did you do? Did you read a proper book or did you stare at the TV? Constant productivity - are you busy? Get busier. I am still unlearning this and perhaps have not even started down that path, can only see it from where I stand, intellectually knowing I should go but so terrified to leave behind the safety of known/understandable anxiety. I can only accept it as a class component, a racial component, an able-bodied privilege, if I walk down there. Due to my able-bodied-ness, I fear I will turn around and run back, weak. That potential humiliation is also terrifying. I want to be better than that. I want to meet someone on the path who reminds me to stay. Don&#039;t look back. Just because it hurts doesn&#039;t mean it is wrong. Like when my acupuncturist puts the needle in my leg. Breathe through it. She is there, and I trust her. Who is on the path? Or do I just go alone because we all have to do it that way?

I live in a new city where I don&#039;t know anything about the history and do not speak the native language. I live a five-ten minute walk from the ocean and go there sometimes. I only learn about myself there because there is no one to explain it, the place, to me. At night, the street lamps shine on the water, and you can see the bottom of the sea, the plants sloshing around at 9pm in sub-zero temperatures. I feel like the plants. Stuck, seen.

I can go back to my own blog and write about how real these things are for me, which is what I intend to do, but this is my long-winded way of saying thank you for sharing this. It is so real to me that I got chills as I read. As you look back on where you were, I wonder what looking ahead can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is midnight, nearing 1am my time, as I read this. I am too tired to respond coherently, yet I must, with more to come. This says so many things that so reflect where I have been and how I measured myself. To be honest, they are probably still mostly relevant in ways I struggle to acknowledge. Right now, I live in my head because being in my body is too sensitive a task. It ebbs and flows, of course, as I know it is happening and can try to come back into myself. I go to my acupuncturist (who took the place of my talk therapist when my words dried up), and sometimes, she can barely touch me because the sensitivity is unbearable. It is only after we talk first that I realize my words are still there and we are building trust, enough trust that I will let her touch my fragile body.</p>
<p>I used to think the list of achievements was a Midwestern thing &#8211; that was all I knew to blame at the time. When you grow up in middle America, there is this expectation that you can/will account for your time. This includes leisure time &#8211; what did you do? Did you read a proper book or did you stare at the TV? Constant productivity &#8211; are you busy? Get busier. I am still unlearning this and perhaps have not even started down that path, can only see it from where I stand, intellectually knowing I should go but so terrified to leave behind the safety of known/understandable anxiety. I can only accept it as a class component, a racial component, an able-bodied privilege, if I walk down there. Due to my able-bodied-ness, I fear I will turn around and run back, weak. That potential humiliation is also terrifying. I want to be better than that. I want to meet someone on the path who reminds me to stay. Don&#8217;t look back. Just because it hurts doesn&#8217;t mean it is wrong. Like when my acupuncturist puts the needle in my leg. Breathe through it. She is there, and I trust her. Who is on the path? Or do I just go alone because we all have to do it that way?</p>
<p>I live in a new city where I don&#8217;t know anything about the history and do not speak the native language. I live a five-ten minute walk from the ocean and go there sometimes. I only learn about myself there because there is no one to explain it, the place, to me. At night, the street lamps shine on the water, and you can see the bottom of the sea, the plants sloshing around at 9pm in sub-zero temperatures. I feel like the plants. Stuck, seen.</p>
<p>I can go back to my own blog and write about how real these things are for me, which is what I intend to do, but this is my long-winded way of saying thank you for sharing this. It is so real to me that I got chills as I read. As you look back on where you were, I wonder what looking ahead can be.</p>
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		<title>By: Leilani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leilani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has turned to exercise and &quot;healthier&quot; habits to help me cope with intense and often times debilitating depression/moodiness, thanks for your post. 

Also identified with your &quot;perfectionist&quot; tendencies, though mine have risen from growing up working-class and always feeling like the dirty/poor kids with something to prove to the world. As I break into my mid-thirties, I&#039;m only just being able to acknowledge this. 

I&#039;ve been obsessed with Griffith Park lately, wrote a short story where the main action takes place in the parking lot by the Astronomer&#039;s Monument, and had the chance to hike up there last time I drove through LA. A fascinating gorgeous spot and a great location for examining issues of history, class, colonialization and nature vs. urban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has turned to exercise and &#8220;healthier&#8221; habits to help me cope with intense and often times debilitating depression/moodiness, thanks for your post. </p>
<p>Also identified with your &#8220;perfectionist&#8221; tendencies, though mine have risen from growing up working-class and always feeling like the dirty/poor kids with something to prove to the world. As I break into my mid-thirties, I&#8217;m only just being able to acknowledge this. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been obsessed with Griffith Park lately, wrote a short story where the main action takes place in the parking lot by the Astronomer&#8217;s Monument, and had the chance to hike up there last time I drove through LA. A fascinating gorgeous spot and a great location for examining issues of history, class, colonialization and nature vs. urban.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not great with html stuff...but I&#039;m trying!

Thanks, for this Jess.  I hope you don&#039;t mind, but I started to walk behind you guys.

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<p>Thanks, for this Jess.  I hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I started to walk behind you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aaminah - thanks for that; really insightful, connecting perfectionism to assimilationism ...

rebecca - it is beautiful to read that you are in the midst of this process. truly, beyond isolated individualism and fear that keeps us from connecting is a whole other, better way of relating to ourselves and others. none of us will do it &quot;right&quot; every time, and that&#039;s okay, and completely worth the risk. 

isabel - i think that insight about how perfectionism is not just damaging to us as individuals but also is damaging outwardly is really important - it&#039;s doing more than just hurting us one at a time; it&#039;s a barrier to relationship building, community building, movement making and a world that is about cooperation and connection. thank you for taking the conversation in that direction. (and i haven&#039;t read kohn -- will try to. thanks for the recommendation!)

love to you all, 

j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaminah &#8211; thanks for that; really insightful, connecting perfectionism to assimilationism &#8230;</p>
<p>rebecca &#8211; it is beautiful to read that you are in the midst of this process. truly, beyond isolated individualism and fear that keeps us from connecting is a whole other, better way of relating to ourselves and others. none of us will do it &#8220;right&#8221; every time, and that&#8217;s okay, and completely worth the risk. </p>
<p>isabel &#8211; i think that insight about how perfectionism is not just damaging to us as individuals but also is damaging outwardly is really important &#8211; it&#8217;s doing more than just hurting us one at a time; it&#8217;s a barrier to relationship building, community building, movement making and a world that is about cooperation and connection. thank you for taking the conversation in that direction. (and i haven&#8217;t read kohn &#8212; will try to. thanks for the recommendation!)</p>
<p>love to you all, </p>
<p>j</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;A lifetime of being affirmed for intellectual achievement in an elite educational environment had over time led to a perfectionism that kept me isolated, competitive, harshly self-critical, and ultimately kept me from creating much of anything, which led to my feeling worthless, which continued around and around in a vicious cycle.&lt;/i&gt;

I could have written this sentence.

When I was having my nervous breakdown (which was pretty mild, as nervous breakdowns go), one thing I would do that I later filed as an unhealthy habit was just walk for hours. Not to go anywhere in particular, just walk around and around the campus (land belonging to what people so many centuries ago?) or the neighborhood or sometimes when it was cold in circles at the 7-11 at 4 in the morning when I couldn&#039;t sleep and couldn&#039;t handle anymore sitting and thinking about how miserable I was. I thought this was messed up and it sort of was, but now I wonder if I wasn&#039;t, to a certain degree, subconsciously self-medicating.

I have spent a lot of time in the year and a half since then thinking about perfectionism and competition and the ways they messed me up and, later, when I was starting to lift out of the myopic world of depression, the ways they might be messing other people up. The ways, also, they alienate us from each other, make us approach each other guardedly, defensively, focused on ourselves and how we come across instead of on other people and what they can share with us or teach us or say to make us laugh. I agree with you completely on their being a part of hierarchical/oppressive systems and cultures.

You&#039;ve given me a lot to think about - too much for a comment! :) but I do want to ask - have you ever read anything by &lt;a href=&quot;http://alfiekohn.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alfie Kohn&lt;/a&gt;? Most of his work is education-related, which is how I got into him, but he&#039;s a lot more radical, I think, than you might expect (though it makes sense when you think about it because - what better way to examine our deepest cultural assumptions than by examining what exactly it is we are teaching our children, who exactly we want them to become and how we want them to do it?) and he writes a lot about competition/competitiveness/&quot;achievement&quot; and its costs, the downsides of praise and focusing on results - you might find him interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A lifetime of being affirmed for intellectual achievement in an elite educational environment had over time led to a perfectionism that kept me isolated, competitive, harshly self-critical, and ultimately kept me from creating much of anything, which led to my feeling worthless, which continued around and around in a vicious cycle.</i></p>
<p>I could have written this sentence.</p>
<p>When I was having my nervous breakdown (which was pretty mild, as nervous breakdowns go), one thing I would do that I later filed as an unhealthy habit was just walk for hours. Not to go anywhere in particular, just walk around and around the campus (land belonging to what people so many centuries ago?) or the neighborhood or sometimes when it was cold in circles at the 7-11 at 4 in the morning when I couldn&#8217;t sleep and couldn&#8217;t handle anymore sitting and thinking about how miserable I was. I thought this was messed up and it sort of was, but now I wonder if I wasn&#8217;t, to a certain degree, subconsciously self-medicating.</p>
<p>I have spent a lot of time in the year and a half since then thinking about perfectionism and competition and the ways they messed me up and, later, when I was starting to lift out of the myopic world of depression, the ways they might be messing other people up. The ways, also, they alienate us from each other, make us approach each other guardedly, defensively, focused on ourselves and how we come across instead of on other people and what they can share with us or teach us or say to make us laugh. I agree with you completely on their being a part of hierarchical/oppressive systems and cultures.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve given me a lot to think about &#8211; too much for a comment! <img src='http://flipfloppingjoy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but I do want to ask &#8211; have you ever read anything by <a href="http://alfiekohn.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">Alfie Kohn</a>? Most of his work is education-related, which is how I got into him, but he&#8217;s a lot more radical, I think, than you might expect (though it makes sense when you think about it because &#8211; what better way to examine our deepest cultural assumptions than by examining what exactly it is we are teaching our children, who exactly we want them to become and how we want them to do it?) and he writes a lot about competition/competitiveness/&#8221;achievement&#8221; and its costs, the downsides of praise and focusing on results &#8211; you might find him interesting.</p>
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